Θα ήθελα την έμπειρη γνώμη σας για τη περίπτωση μου!

piros75

Well-Known Member
Υ.Γ.
Επειδή δε γνωρίζω όλους τους κανονες, μπορω να ενημερώνω το νήμα με τις επικοινωνίες που κάνω με κλινικές για το τι μου προσφέρουν και το τι μου ζητάνε;;
Αν δεν επιτρέπεται να αναφέρω όνομα, μπορώ να αναφέρω το τι χρήματα μου ζητάνε ανώνυμα;

Σας ευχαριστώ!
Όχι απλά επιτρέπεται, ψοφάμε για τέτοια, οπότε εννοείται να ενημερώνεις για όλα όσα αναφέρεις με ονόματα.
 

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mpiliak0s

New Member
Καλησπέρα σας. Ύστερα απο μερικές εβδομάδες επικοινωνίας με κλινικές σας παραθέτω παρακάτω τις απαντήσεις μάζεψα (ελπίζω να είστε καλοί με την αγγλική):

(Ζητώ προκαταβολικά συγνώμη αν δημοσιεύω εν αγνοία μου πληροφορίες που δε θα έπρεπε. Αν ισχύει αυτό, ενημερώστε με και θα πράξω αναλόγως)

Οι ερωτήσεις μου:

  1. Based on the pictures what are the advices/suggestions you can give me for a potential hair transplant? Such us the number of grafts, density (grafts/cm2) etc.
  2. Is the operation taking place by a doctor or assistants?
  3. Would you recommend to build only the hairline or is it safe to proceed with a hair transplant that covers all the visible hairloss back until the crown? I will have more hairloss in the future but I thought to have the best looking result at this moment and proceed in a second one after 5-6 years. What is your opinion on that? Is there a risk of potential shock loss in the crown if we perform it also there?
  4. As you may understand I will have to take the flight back home, is there any risk or danger onboarding on a plane couple of days after the surgery?
  5. What is included in the aftercare? What happens after the first day of the surgery? Do you recommend Minoxidil or Finasteride pills for ultimate results?
  6. Will there be any PRP or blood tests before the operetaion?
  7. Last but not least, what would be the price range for my case? I would like also to know if something else except the hair transplant, is included in the price.


Dr Hakan Doganay
Dear Phil,
Thanks for interesting in having FUE surgery with Dr. Hakan Doganay.
This is M****, a patient advisor for Dr. Hakan Doganay, I will be in charge of responding emails after consulting Dr. Hakan.
Based on the pictures, you need 3500 grafts, however, please be aware that this is an estimate
and the exact number will be decided in-person visit.
Dr. Hakan does all implantation part by himself only. Extraction is done by technicians.


We have 25% discount for every graft after 2000 grafts if you book a plane ticket in
May and even if you come another month!
Our price is 2 euros per hair graft and 2.5 euros per beard graft. The utilities, like a hospital, food, transportation in Antalya and medicines necessary after the operation will be paid by us.
We have other price options if you choose technicians implantation.

We will pick you up from the airport and take to the hospital, where you will stay during the surgery.
If you use a credit card for the payment, we will charge extra %8 for the tax but if you bring cash there will be no tax charge.

Dr. Resul Yaman Hair Clinic
Hello Mr. Pappas,

This is F**** D****, the director of Dr. Yaman Hair Clinic. First of all thank you for your interest and prefering us for consultation.

After carefully examining and considering all photos and information mentioned at your messages, Dr. Resul Yaman estimates for your operation about 4000 grafts. Your donor capacity is fine and the quality of your hair looks very good. When you get this operation done your hairline will be recreated with 2000 grafts symmetrically to receive a natural look and we will reach healthy looking density on frontal, middle and crown areas. To receive the most healthy and natural result, the density on frontal area should be high. Also Dr. Yaman will increase the density on midscalp with 1000 grafts and to cover the crown area with 1000 grafts between your existing hair. Dr Yaman recommends also to begin to use Propecia or Finasteride minumum 15 day before the operation. If you don't want to use Finasteride or Propecia, in Turkey there is a mixture multivitamines in pharmacies, you can use a multivitamine after the operation.

If you go ahead with Dr.Yaman you should arrive in Istanbul one day before surgery. Because one day before operation your hair density and hair nature are analysied by Dr. Yaman and then graft transplantation area and donor area are controlled and measured. Dr. Yaman says the exact number of grafts and operation is planned with you. After that we will do some blood exams and PRP. PRP(Platelet-Rich Plasma ) which helps us for 3 important areas in hair transplantation procedure.

*Keeping hair roots removed alive longer without any damage.
*Faster recovery of hair follicles placed and to provide lesser loss
*To stimulate and boost thin and weak hair follicles.

About charges:
We offer a promotional package to our patients. The price is 1€/graft. We offer a seasonal price to 3250€ for summer 2020. You can pay in cash when you arrive. *During your consultation, if Dr. Yaman decides to implant more grafts than the estimation, you don’t be charged extra.
This package includes:

* Pre and post consultations with doctor
* Blood analysis and PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma)
* Operation
* Post operative control and cure
* Post operative medicines
* Special shampoo and lotion for the first 10 washing
* First washing by a specialist
* 3 nights 5* hotel (double room-breakfast inc.)
* Transfers (airport-hotel-clinic-airport)

I send you some photos. So you can see how these grafts will be distributed. The hairline will be designed by Dr. Yaman during your consultation.

You can find below some information about precedure;

In our clinic, we perform incision as the first step of the hair transplantation. In the incision step, recipient incisions are created by Dr. Resul Yaman at once, in the exact number of graft calculation in front, mid and crown areas. The creation of recipient incisions is important for homogenization and hair roots’ directions. Incision step is performed with a 0.8-0.9-1mm. needles which differ in front, mid and crown areas depending on the proportions of multiple grafts. Also the implanter, which we have been developing lately, can provide us to create smaller incisions.

After incision step is over, we perform extraction. The extraction step is performed with a low speed modified micro motor by expert staff who has been trained only for extraction step. Individual’s donor area is divided into equipartition and from each partition same amount of follicle is extracted. In the donor area, hair follicles are extracted degressively to external line of the extraction area so an apparent external line is prevented.

Extracted hair follicles are waited in +4°C, hypothermosol solution which is used specifically in organ transplant surgeries. +4°C and hypothermosol solution provide us the optimal conditions for about 5 hours.



Transplantation step is performed with a spesific implanter which has been developed and taken out a patent by Dr. Resul Yaman. Different than classic implanter technique, in this spesific implanter hair follicles are taken from the upside of expert staff’s hand and they are pushed under the skin with the help of slice bar. The hair follicles are replaced under the skin without being touched by skin or forceps and by preventing any possible trauma which may be caused by crash or smash. So a possible damage on hair root, which may be caused by professional staff’s incidental mistake or causes making transplatation harder like hard skin structure, etc., can be prevented.



Your bandage for one night is applied at the end of the procedure and your file is given including recommendations and things to care for to have comfortable night. Your drugs are prescribed to use for 5 days. You may comfortably return to your work or home after the operation.

You should come to our hospital at the next day or 2nd day and your hair should be washed by our specialist. Special lotions and shampoos are used during this washing procedure and you are recommended to wash your hair as instructed for 15 days. Our priority in our hospital is to meet or patients’ expectations completely and to provide the most qualified service by keeping the patient comfort on top level.

Dr. Resul Yaman recommends his patient to use Finasteride or SawPalmetto-biotin during pre- and post-operative processes. Usage of medical treatments is considered as prior condition in under post-operative warranty.

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Hair Of Instabul
WhatsApp conversation

Hair of Instabul:

1. You need more than 3500 grafts and we will tranplant all over the head. Cause the natural hair will probably fall out in the future. They seems very thin. And roughly 25 grafts per cm²
2. The incision part will be done by doctor and the exraction-transplant part will be done by nurses.
3. You need all over head cause the natural hair is no more healthy.
4. You need to stay three days in Istanbul and after you can return, there is no risk
5. Just one medical shampoo and lotion is included for after care and we don't recommended any medication or minoxidil after.
6. The blood test will be vefore the surgery and PRP will at the end.
7. It cost €4000 included three days accommodation in five star hotel, PRP treatment, a special shampoo and lotion, all medication, all transfer in Istanbul and maximum grafts.

Me: Thank you for your detailed answer. Could you please elaborate a bit more on the (3)? why my natural existing hair is not more healthy?
Hair of Instabul: You have genetics hairloss and it's not over. The hair has started to get thinner and probably they will fall out in the future
Me: Yes that is true. I have the genetics from my father who is currently NW7. However is it safe to transplant in an area that I have hair already? Or are there risks of damaging the existing natural hair??
Hair of Instabul: 20% of the natural hair might be damage but those hair is no more useful
Dr. Cinik
1. 4.000 grafts. Density: Crown: 40-50 grafts per cm2 / Front 60-70 grafts per cm2
2. Incision & implementation by technicians (at 2.090 euros) / Incision by Dr. Cinik & implementation by technicians (at 2.590 euros). In both situations Dr Cinik is only supervising
3. All over the head. We expect 3000 grafts in front and 1000 grafts in the crown
4. Completely safe, no risks
5. We offer shampoos with additional cost. NO minoxidil. It's not allowed either pre or post operation because it looks like you have thick hair but when you will stop it the visual-density will disappear. You can use finasteride IF you want. Additional aftercare: No alcohol or sexual activity for the 1st week. No sports or swearing for the 1st month. No sauna or hairdrayer for the first 6 months.
6. Blood tests before the operation, PRP during the op. If you would like a second PRP in the future it's free of charge.
7. Two packages: 2.090 euro includes 2 nights accomondation, transportation to hotel & hospital / 2.590 euro includes incision by Dr. Cinik, 3 nights accomondation, transportation to hotel & hospital (in both cases airplane tickets are not included)

If you would like to come with accompany then you have to pay only 10 euros extra for each night at the hotel.
Γνώμη μου:
1) Μου άρεσε πολύ η αναλυτική απάντηση του Yaman και γενικότερα απο ότι έχω δει απο τα έργα του, είναι ψηλά στη λίστα μου
2) Παρόλο που η συζήτηση με τη Hair of Instabul δεν ήταν εκτενής και έγινε στο WhatsApp, έχω ήδη μιλήσει με 5 άτομα που κάνανε επέμβαση εκει και είναι τρομερά ευχαριστημένοι και χαρούμενοι. Μου έστειλαν φωτογραφίες και βίντεο να μου μιλάνε και να μου δείχνουν πως μοιάζουν τα μαλλιά τους τώρα και με διαβεβαίωσαν πως ήταν ότι καλύτερο έχουν κάνει παρόλο που η επέμβαση γίνεται απο μη γιατρούς. Σίγουρα θα τη συνιστούσαν ανεπιφύλακτα ως κλινική. Προσωπικά αυτό με κέρδισε πολύ γιατί μου απαντήσαν σε όλες τις παραπάνω ερωτήσεις ο καθένας ξεχωριστά και μου απάντησαν όλοι μόνο θετικά σχόλια. Επίσης τους ρώτησα αν οι φωτογραφίες που ανεβάζει η κλινική είναι πειραγμένες γιατί φαινεται απίστευτο το αποτέλεσμα και μου είπαν ότι δεν έχουν πειράξει τίποτα απολύτως, τις ανέβασαν όπως ακρίβως τους τις στείλαμε.
3) Με τον Dr. Cinik έγινε μέσω τηλεφώνου με μια εκπρόσωπο του και ακούστηκε αρκετά καλή κι αυτή η περίπτωση. Με φοβίζει λίγο το ότι είναι τόσα λίγα τα λεφτά αλλά γενικά μου άρεσαν αυτά που άκουσα και τα αποτελέσματα της κλινικής μου αρέσουν όπως και του Yaman.

Υ.Γ.
Έστειλα και σε μερικές ακόμα(Acar-Cosmedica, ClinMedica, Dr Yavuz, MCAN, Dr Aygin) και στον Ερντογάν, ακόμα κι αν είναι εκτός μπάτζετ θα ήθελα να ακούσω τη γνώμη του. Μόλις έχω νεότερα απο αυτές θα ξαναποστάρω.

Εως τότε, ποιά είναι η γνώμη σας για τα απο πάνω;;
 
Για μένα φίλε πήγαινε στον Ερντογάν με 1,5 ευρώ το μόσχευμα είναι πολύ καλή τιμή για αυτή την κλινικη εγώ αν δεν είχα κάνει στο yaman εκει θα πήγαινα
στον ερτογαν να παει, αλλα δεν θα ειναι αυτος να σου κανει τον σχεδιασμο. ο ιδιος εχει στα 2,4 το γκραφτ αν θυμαμαι καλα. καποιο αποτελεσμα δεν εχω δει απο τους βοηθους του
 

paulakos266

Active Member
στον ερτογαν να παει, αλλα δεν θα ειναι αυτος να σου κανει τον σχεδιασμο. ο ιδιος εχει στα 2,4 το γκραφτ αν θυμαμαι καλα. καποιο αποτελεσμα δεν εχω δει απο τους βοηθους του
Λόγω του ιού οι τιμές κατέβηκαν και με τον Ερντογάν είναι στο 1,5 ευρώ ενώ με τους βοηθούς στο 1 ευρώ το μοσχευμα
 

TiEisai

New Member
Billare, λίγο πολύ τα ίδια σου λένε όλοι. Αυτο που με προβληματίζει είναι το τσουλούφι, άμα πας να βαλεις γύρω γύρω και δεν ξεκινήσεις φιναστεριδη, σε 3,4,5 χρονια που θα αραιωσει θα φαίνεται περίεργο. Επίσης υπάρχει κίνδυνος shock loss εφόσον η τρίχα είναι ήδη αδυνατισμένη.
 

mpiliak0s

New Member
Billare, λίγο πολύ τα ίδια σου λένε όλοι. Αυτο που με προβληματίζει είναι το τσουλούφι, άμα πας να βαλεις γύρω γύρω και δεν ξεκινήσεις φιναστεριδη, σε 3,4,5 χρονια που θα αραιωσει θα φαίνεται περίεργο. Επίσης υπάρχει κίνδυνος shock loss εφόσον η τρίχα είναι ήδη αδυνατισμένη.
Αυτό μου είπαν και απο κάποιες απο αυτές τις κλινικές. Ότι έχει αδυνατίσει πολύ και γιαυτό θα χρειαστεί να τοποθετήσουν και εκεί μοσχεύματα. Φιναστεριδη δεν εχω θεμα να ξεκινησω, μου είπαν όχι μόνο σε minoxidil
 

vlafo

Active Member
Λόγω του ιού οι τιμές κατέβηκαν και με τον Ερντογάν είναι στο 1,5 ευρώ ενώ με τους βοηθούς στο 1 ευρώ το μοσχευμα
"Αν" πράγματι ισχύει αυτό τότε νομίζω θα μιλάμε για κοσμογονία στο θέμα της τιμολογιακής πολιτικής που θα συμπαρασύρει και τους υπόλοιπους προς τα κάτω ειδικά την Κύπρο που βλέπω να έχει μεγάλες απώλειες.
Έχει αναρτηθεί πουθενά στην επίσημη ιστοσελίδα τους?
 

manly_Man

Active Member
Αυτό μου είπαν και απο κάποιες απο αυτές τις κλινικές. Ότι έχει αδυνατίσει πολύ και γιαυτό θα χρειαστεί να τοποθετήσουν και εκεί μοσχεύματα. Φιναστεριδη δεν εχω θεμα να ξεκινησω, μου είπαν όχι μόνο σε minoxidil
για ποιο λογο οχι σε μινοξιδιλη;;
 

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