Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Άκης

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Επειδή όλοι μας διαβάζουμε για το palmetto, θα γράψω μερικά γι'αυτό έπειτα από σχετική αναζήτηση.

Πολλά προϊόντα είτε χάπια, είτε σαμπουάν ή αμπούλες, κυκλοφορούν στο εμπόριο για την τριχόπτωση και αναφερουν ότι περιέχουν και Saw palmetto. Κάνουν όμως δουλειά;;

Το Saw palmetto δεν έχει αποδείξη ότι μπορεί να περιορίσει την τριχόπτωση, οπότε η συχνή ή υπερβολική χρήση προϊόντων που περιέχουν σκέτο palmetto, δεν συνιστάτε.
Αυτός ο μύθος με το palmetto έχει δημιουργηθεί από τις εταιρίες με φάρμακα ή καλλυντικά για να πλασάρουν τα προϊόντα τους, συνδέοντας έτσι το palmetto με τον προστάτη.
Αναφορικά, δεν υπάρχει απόδειξη ή κάποια κλινική έρευνα και γι'αυτό, ότι εχουν αποτέλεσμα και στον προστάτη.
Κάπου δηλαδή, κάποιος συνδυασε το ότι αφού η φιναστερίδη κάνει για τον προστάτη και αφού ο κόσμος παλιά χρησιμοποιούσε palmetto για τον προστάτη, άρα και το palmetto κάνει για τα μαλλιά μας, κάτι που φυσικά δεν ισχύει.

Η φιναστερίδη σε μορφή 5mg πωλείτε με την ονομασία proscar και είναι φάρμακο για τον προστάτη. Σαν μία αντένδειξη, όσοι το χρησιμοποιούσαν και είχαν τριχόπτωση, έβγαζαν μαλλιά.
Φυσικά η εταιρία κάτι τέτοιο δεν μπορούσε να το αφήσει ανεκμετάλευτο και έτσι μετά από έρευνες, κυκλοφόρησε το propecia, που είναι το 1/5 του proscar.

Αν θέλετε να κάνετε κάτι για τα μαλλιά σας, χρησιμοποιήστε συνδιασμό palmetto με άλλους φυτικούς blockers ή συστατικά που έχουν αποτέλεσμα.
πχ το super zix ή το revivogen περιέχουν βιταμίνη Β6 και ψευδάργυρο μαζί με άλλα συστατικά.

Αλλιώς, χρησιμοποιήστε το proscar.
 

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αφού υπάρχει σχετικό post,βάζω εδώ ένα προϊόν που συζητιέται σε ξένα forum...
περιέχει Zn,saw palmetto κ.α

HAIR ASSIST SHAMPOO

Essential Ingredients:
Hair assist contains a number of natural ingredients. Find out more about the health benefits of these ingredients.

Zinc Rosemary
Silica Colloidal Minerals
Biotin Ginkgo biloba
Nettle Cayenne
Sage Selenium
Saw Palmetto



Zinc, Zn

Zinc is one of the main healing minerals.
Zinc deficiency signs are -poor hair condition, fatigue, decreased alertness,
susceptibility to infections and retarded sexual activity.
A prolonged Zinc deficiency may lead to any of the following ailments: Baldness,
dermatitis, arteriosclerosis, diabetes, acne, retarded growth and ulcers.
Zinc foods are essential for healthy hair and proper digestion of proteins and
carbohydrates.

Refined carbohydrates are often lacking in their original zinc content.
Zinc is essential for the health of the prostrate gland and also for the manufacture of various male hormones and development of the genital organs. Zinc is essential for the growth of nearly all human tissues especially the thyroid gland, pancreas and reproductive organs.
Regular consumption of alcohol can lead to a zinc deficiency. Zinc is an ingredient of the enzyme that is required to break down alcohol.

Zinc is an active ingredient with numerous digestive enzymes and it is required for the action of vitamins, especially the B complex vitamins.
Zinc is essential for the proper action of insulin: sugar conversion.



Colloidal Minerals

A total of 103 elements have been discovered so far to be part of Nature on Earth.

The main four elements are: Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen
Minerals are part of the complex of earth elements and for human requirements they are grouped into the form of essential minerals and trace minerals.
Minerals are as important to the human as a complete set of good spark plugs are for a car. Minerals could be thought of as the spark plugs and the vitamins as the initial 'spark' that is distributed to all parts of the body. When even one mineral is lacking from the diet, the result is felt by the entire body and the role of the vitamins will also be inhibited which leads
to even more problems such as general ill health.

Minerals are part of every living cell of the body. They are closely integrated with one another to perform a multitude of functions. Often one mineral deficiency will effect and retard the functions of various other minerals.

Minerals of the earth must first pass through the living structure of plants before they are usable for human survival. Plants are the 'missing link' in providing man with one of the essential ingredients of life which is food and nutrition. All the other three main elements
( air, water and sunshine) are obtainable directly; minerals are not. When minerals are obtained directly from plant sources, the mineral elements are joined in exactly the right amounts and combinations to ensure compatibility with the human system. Any refinement, processing, extraction or addition destroys the combination (sugar, salt and preservatives etc) and places a strain on the human system which results in decline in health.
Colloidal minerals are obtained directly from Mother Nature after they have passed through the living structure of plants and hence are complete and synergistically created.
Essential Minerals are:
Calcium, Chlorine, Silicon, Sodium, Sulphur, Zinc, Fluorine, Iron, Phosphorous,
Potassium, Manganese, Magnesium

Trace Minerals Essential:
Cobolt, Chromium, Molybdenum, Selenium, Vanadium
Non Essential: Aluminium, Lithium, Mercury, Nickel, Rubidium, Silver, Tin.

Ginkgo biloba

Maidenhair tree
Originally from S-E China the ginkgo is grown as a street or ornamental tree throughout temperate regions of the world including Australia.

Active constituents:
1.Flavonoids including coumaric acid, kaempferol, quercetin and isorhamnetin
2. Diterpenes known as ginkgolides A,B,C and M- these are unique chemical entities.
3. Sesquiterpenes - bilobalide
Also contains organic acid vanilic, protocatechic and hydroxykinurenic.

Actions:
Vasodilator, antispasmodic, anti-inflammatory, antifungal, insecticidal
Medicinal uses (pertaining to hair loss)
The ginkgolides appear to improve the metabolic processes in tissues so that oxygen ad glucose are readily available and damage to tissue is prevented. Ginkgo's ability to open up the peripheral circulation is the important aspect of the herb's actions.
This is achieved by:
a) direct chemical release of a "relaxing factor" and prostacyclin
b) increasing intracellular cyclic AMP
c) potentiating noradrenaline and inhibition of its catabolism.
Clinical trials have proved its efficacy in the treatment of venous insufficiency and
peripheral vascular insufficiency.


Cayenne pepper, chilli pepper

Capsicum annuum Native of Central and tropical South America. Now cultivated in hotter parts of Australia and New Zealand. The parts used are the ripe fruits. The medicinal value
of this is directly related to its pungency which varies according to the specific variety and its content of cap saicin. some people may be 'burned' just by handling peppers and contact with the inner walls and seed of fresh hot peppers should be avoided. The burning is made worse by water and may be relieved by putting the hands in milk.

Active constituents:
1.Alkaloids including capsaicin 0.1-1.5%,
2. Flavonoids
3. Carotenoid pigments including carotene
4. Volatile oil
5. Seeds contain: Steroidal saponins-capsicidins

Nutritional constituents:
Vitamins: High in vitamins A and C, also contains B complex.
Minerals: Iron, calcium, potassium, magnesium, phosphorus and sulphur.
Actions:
Stimulant, spasmolytic, diaphoretic, carminative
Externally: rubefacient, antiseptic, counter-irritant

Medicinal uses ( pertaining to hair loss only)
Capsicum annuum has been studied and found to stimulate the circulation and smooth muscle, it affects heat regulation and has empirical use for poor peripheral circulation.


Biotin

Co-enzyme R ( Vitamin H), water soluble
Biotin is the most important nutrient for healthy hair.
Biotin deficiency can lead to baldness, dermatitis and mental depression.
It may lead to lack of appetite, inability to sleep, muscular pains and nervousness.
Biotin is essential for normal cellular growth of all body tissues.
Biotin works in combination with the amino acid lysine for the distribution of C02, carbon dioxide around the body, mainly from the lungs.

Biotin assists in the breakdown of fatty foods into glucose, a usable energy source.
A biotin deficiency may lead to an overweight condition.

Biotin is closely related to all B group vitamins, especially choline. They assist the body to produce a natural supply of the substance, lecithin, which is used by the body to control the levels of fat and cholesterol in the bloodstream.

Biotin is especially required by those people who have continual problems with digestion, which may have been caused by the taking of antibiotics, mineral oil or raw egg white,
all of which deplete the reserves of biotin.

Most modern cereals and refined foods products have their Biotin content removed by the processes of refinement.
Biotin is essential for normal cellular growth of bones, Biotin is a water soluble vitamin which should be obtained regularly from the diet, to ensure maximum health. Green leafy vegetables are excellent.

Biotin can be synthesised from the intestinal bacteria, when favourable conditions exist.
Biotin is required for the utilisation of nutrients from protein, folic acid, vitamin B5 and B12. There's no use eating meat for protein when the body is incapable of using it. Biotin and all the B vitamins work in harmony.



Silica (on) Si-Acid mineral

Silicon is one of the most abundant minerals in a rich soil. With fresh fruits and vegetables, silicon is mainly concentrated in the outer skin layer.

Silicon is essential for healthy hair, skin and teeth. It is the main beauty mineral, required for hair growth, proper eyesight and repair of damaged skin tissues. Silicon is vital for efficient cell growth.

Silicon is a major cleansing mineral. It promotes the formation of healthy red blood cells
and is essential for proper blood circulation.

Silicon foods protect against mental fatigue, nervous exhaustion, baldness,
infection and poor vision. The action of silicon is dependant o the mineral fluorine.
A silicon deficiency is often related to the formation of arthritic conditions.
Silicon foods protect the body against the development of cancerous tissue.



Rosemary

Rosmarinus officinalis
Native to Mediterranean Europe. Parts used are the aerial parts of the herb including twigs.

Active constituents:
1. Volatile oil including borneol, camphor, linalool, pinene, cineol
2. Tannins
3. Bitter principle including picrosalvin
4. Flavonoids including apigei and diosmin
Also contains phenolic acids including rosmarinic acid, rosmaricine and resin.
Nutritional constituents Vitamins: A and C
Minerals: High in calcium with some iron, magnesium, potassium, phosphorus,
sodium and zinc.
Actions:
Carminative,spasmolytic, tonic, stimulant: nervous and circulatory, antimicrobial, rubefa cient, mild analgesic.
Many other actions are ascribed to Rosmarinus, but the above represents the main basis of the herb's effect.
Medicinal uses (pertaining to hair loss)
Externally as a rinse: baldness, dandruff.
Anti-inflammatory, circulatory stimulant: tonic to the heart and blood vessels.



Nettle, stinging

Urtica dioica Originally from Britain, Northern Europe and Asia stinging nettle is found wild in Australia.

Active constituents:
1. Flavonoids including quercetin, kaempferol and isorhamnetin in flowers
2. Amines including histamine, choline, acetylcholine, serotonin (in stinging hairs)
3. Tannins
4. Sterols - in the roots including sitosterol
Also contains carboxylic acids including formic acid, phenolic compounds
(vanillic acid, vanillin) , lignans, lectins, amino acids, coumarins, glucoquinones.

Nutritional constituents:
Vitamins: A, B1,B2, C, E, carotenoids (chlorophyll and beta-carotene) and K.
Minerals: High amount of calcium and potassium salts, silicic acid and iron.
Also manganese and copper.
Actions:
Anti-haemorrhagic - tannins, vitamin K, Nutritive tonic, Diuretic, Hypoglycaemic
Circulatory stimulant, Galactagogue, Alterative

Medicinal uses ( pertaining to hair loss only)
The impressive list of nutritive constituents explains the traditional use to supply nourishment to the body's requirements. In addition the coexistence of vitamin C with the iron allows for good absorption and availability of the iron. Of particular interest for the treatment of hair loss is the rhizome action which seems to block the binding of androgen to sex
hormone binding globulin. Russian studies suggested antibacterial properties and found an aqueous extract active against bacteria including Staphylococci. Antifungal properties have been demonstrated, in vitro, by the lectins found in the rhizomes. In addition due to its circirculatory stimulant action it encourages better perfusion of tissues, so carrying nutrients "in" and metabolic waste "out". Historical uses in Roman times indicated external use as a hair rinse for stimulating growth and dandruff which clearly indicates it's validity due to its circu latory and nutritive action.



Sage

Saliva officinalis
A very aromatic, short-lived perennial undershrub which is native to Mediterranean Europe.
It is now grown in Australia and New Zealand. Grown in many gardens as a culinary herb.

Active constituents:
1. Volatile oil including thujone, cineole, borneol, camphor
2. Triterpenoids
3. Bitter principle- picrosalvin
4. Tannins
5. Flavonoids
Salvia also contains oestrogenic substances, phenolic acids including rosmarinic
acid and resin.

Nutritional constituents:
Vitamins: A, C and B complex
Minerals: Calcium and potassium and small amounts of sulphur, silicon, phosphorus
and sodium.
Actions:
Antiseptic, astringent, antispasmodic, carminative, anti-hidrotic, bitter.

Medicinal uses ( pertaining to hair loss only)
Externally Salvia is extremely effective and useful for baldness/thinning hair.



Selenium

Selenium is an essentials trace element that has recently been recognized as one of the most important nutrients in our diet. It is an antioxidant and is vitally important in humans metabolism. Selenium has been proven to provide protection against a number of cancers, and other diseases.

Selenium is necessary for the body’s manufacture of proteins, and helps the liver to function effectively. It also forms part of the male sperm, which means that deficiency can be linked to infertility in men. Other symptoms of deficiency include reduced immune activity, chest pains and hair loss.

Properties
1. maintains healthy eyes and eyesight
2. maintains good skin and hair
3. stimulates immune system
4. prevents many cancers
5. improves liver function
6. prevents against heart and circulatory diseases
7. increases male potency and sex drive
8. alleviates hot flushes and symptoms of menopause
9. helps treat dandruff

Selenium is found in wheat germ, bran, tuna, fish, onions, tomatoes, broccoli, kidney and whole wheat bread.



Saw Palmetto

Constituents
1. volatile oil (1%)
2. steroid saponin
3. alkaloid resins
4. tannins

The steroid saponin seems to be responsible for the action on the prostrate and hormonal disorders. The saponins appear to repress the activity of DHT, dihydrotestosterone (responsible for prostate cells multiplication)

Action:
Male reproductive tonic (esp. prostrate), diuretic, urinary antiseptic, anti catarrhal, relaxant, endocrine stimulant.
Saw Palmetto is traditional topical herbal medicine used to help improve skin and scalp conditions, maintain healthy skin and hair, reverse hair loss. It was used by American Indians as hair, scalp and skin care. It is said to revitalize mature skin, to bring olive shine to the skin, to help revive hair follicles, improve hair strength, body and shine, make scalp less sensitive to stress and irritation. More recently Saw Palmetto received recognition in the areas of men's health and women's health both as preventative remedy and as safe and effective treatment to reverse development of certain pathological conditions, combat alopecia. Scientific research confirm that majority of Saw Palmetto bioactive ingredients are of lipophilic nature, and therefore are extracted into the oil and well assimilated by the skin. These observations suggest that when applied topically, the active ingredients of Saw Palmetto may be more bioavailable and therefore provide more effective treatment for particular body areas and organs.

https://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=49593&pname=Hair+Assist+All+Natural+Shampoo+250mL...
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

δυστυχώς δεν υπάρχουν έρευνες για το προϊόν,απλά πολλοί ευχαριστημένοι χρήστες - βοηθά στην κύρια θεραπεία (π.χ big3)....
 

Άκης

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Πρέπει να βοηθά σαν συμπληρωματικό αλλά όχι σαν κύριο -πιστεύω.
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

σόρι - αυτό ήθελα να γράψω...
το χρησιμοποιούν σαν συμπλήρωμα/ενισχυτικό της κύριας θεραπείας,όχι σαν κύρια θεραπεία...
 

cool11

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Σπυρο το HAIR ASSIST SHAMPOO το πουλανε στην Ελλαδα? Εταιρια?
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

δυστυχώς όχι-το έψαξα πριν ποσταρω :(
 

cool11

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Πιστευω ειναι ενδιαφερον το λινκ
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/qalibrary/f/sawpalmetto.htm

Υποτιθεται οτι βοηθαει, κατι κανει, σιγουρια απολυτη δεν υπαρχει...
Και διαβαζω για κατι τρομερα side effects οπως παγκρετιτιδα!
Να σταματησω να βαζω και τη frezyderm μασκα που περιεχει saw palmetto???
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

αναφέρονται στο χάπι/κάψουλα και σε περιπτώσεις υπερδοσολογίας ή δυσανεξίας ::)
 

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cool11

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

οποτε topical χρηση στο τριχωτο της κεφαλης, να υποθεσω οτι ειναι ασφαλης.
ελπιζω να δουμε μελετες συντομα που να λενε οτι ειναι αποτελεσματικο dht blocker.
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

πάντως δεν μπορείς να ποντάρεις τα πάντα σε ένα σαμπουάν - συμπληρωματικό/ενισχυτικό της βασικής θεραπείας είναι...
 

cool11

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Ναι, το εχω καταλαβει οτι τα προιοντα δρουν συνδυαστικα.
 

Παναγιωτης

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

τα σαμπουαν ειναι κυριως για να καθαριζουν τα μαλλια ελαχιστα εως μηδαμινα θα ελεγα αποτελεσματα στην τριχοπτωση
 

cool11

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

Παναγιωτης είπε:
τα σαμπουαν ειναι κυριως για να καθαριζουν τα μαλλια ελαχιστα εως μηδαμινα θα ελεγα αποτελεσματα στην τριχοπτωση

να πω εξαρχης οτι το εχω διαβασει ολο το θεμα για το fungoral

αλλα παιρνω αφορμη απο την πιο πανω τοποθετηση και ρωτω:

αυτο που λες ισχυει και για το fungoral???? μηδαμινα αποτελεσματα στην προσπαθεια μας κατα της τριχοπτωσης? μα δεν ειναι ενα απο τα 3 βασικα του big3?
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

το θέμα άρχισε για προϊόντα με saw palmetto και τελικά το πήγαμε στα σαμπουάν... ;D

cool η συζήτηση παραπάνω (Παναγιώτης-Χριστίνα) ήταν για τα φθηνά σαμπουάν του εμπορίου...
 

Παναγιωτης

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cool11 είπε:
να πω εξαρχης οτι το εχω διαβασει ολο το θεμα για το fungoral

αλλα παιρνω αφορμη απο την πιο πανω τοποθετηση και ρωτω:

αυτο που λες ισχυει και για το fungoral???? μηδαμινα αποτελεσματα στην προσπαθεια μας κατα της τριχοπτωσης? μα δεν ειναι ενα απο τα 3 βασικα του big3?

το δυνατο σημειο του fungoral ειναι η κετοκοζανολη και αυτο γιατι η η συγκεκριμενη ουσια εχει την δυνατοτητα να μειωνει τα επιπεδα τεστοστερονης στο κεφαλι μας

αυτο κανει το fugnoral διαφορετικο απο τα αλλα σαμπουαν κατα την γνωμη μου

και αυτο κανει το fungoral καλυτερα απο τα γνωστα και κοινα σαμπουαν

για αυτο μαλλον δεν μπορεις να το βαζεις καθημερινα λογο της ουσιας αυτης

το fugnoral δεν ειναι κοινο σαμπουαν

φαντασου ενα αλλο σαμπουαν να εχει μεσα φιναστεριδη η ντουταστεριδη
αυτοματος θα το εκανε πολυ δυνατοτερο

ΑΛΛΑ ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΣΟΥ ΑΠΑΝΤΗΣΩ ΣΕ ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΛΕΣ

ενα σαμπουαν οπως το fungoral που το βαζεις μερα παρα μερα και το αφηνεις 3 λεπτα στο κεφαλι σου (οσοι το αφηνουν) μην περιμενεις να σωθεις απο την τριχοπτωση μονο απο 3 λεπτα μερα παρα μερα

εδω βαζουμε ντουταστεριδη καθε μερα και για να δουμε αποτελεσμα περιμενουμε μηνες

αναλογισου λιγο τον χρονο λεπτα ποσες φορες την εβδομαδα και λοιπα και θα καταλαβεις

και το οτι το συγκεκριμενο ειναι καλυτερο απο τα κοινα σαμπουαν δεν τον κανει και υπεροπλο κατα της τριχοπτωσης

η αποψη μου ισχυει για τα σαμπουαν και δεν αλλαζει
 

Pathetic_Losser

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

100% συμφωνώ φιλε Πανο.
Ισως καποιοι να δινουν περισσοτερη βαση στο σαμπουαν απο οση θα επρεπε γιατι οπως κ στην περιπτωση του fungoral, ειναι αυτο που δινει τα πρωτα θετικα σημαδια που βλεπουμε αρχιζοντας μια θεραπεια. ;D
 

Παναγιωτης

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Απ: Προϊόντα με Saw palmetto και αποτελέσματα

οντως πολλα θεματα με σαμποαυν και πολυ ψαξιμο

καλυτερα θα ηταν το χρονο που αφιερωνουν στο ψαξιμο σαμπουαν να το αφιερωσουν αλλου σε αλλη ενοτητα ;D
 
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